Elders just received a letter from the Watchtower stating that any publisher who makes extensive use of the Watchtower cd-rom may want to consider not ordering bound volumes.
It's expensive to supply all those bound volumes and a lot of times the brothers don't even pay for them.
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Ah Ha! Just another example of the wastefulness of those Brothers at Bethel.
Oh Wait, less bound volumes means less energy, less time, less resources used.
I know, I know, they need more money to buy those Rolex watches, and air conditioned dog houses, and mansions they keep........ where????
Where did you say they spent all that money???????
Oh yeah, they keep building more Kingdom Halls all over the world.
was that sarcasm?
hmm..
More Kingdom Halls huh?
aah...more income..
Also, It makes it easier to change history without having many original, unedited hardcopies sitting around for comparison to the latest CD.
This post only proves that you just copy and paste without even checking.
The announcement of watchtower library and not ordering the bundled printed copy is NOT in the letter to elder BUT IN THE SEPTEMBER "OUR KINGDOM MINISTRY"
hmmm makes me wonder .....
"...hmmm makes me wonder ....."
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That means you didn't see the letter? Well, it was just for the leaders in the congregation. You are not an elders?
hmmm makes me wonder .....
We have already established that the Watchtower organization is prospering financially.
What is constantly implied and suggested is that the monies are misused to benefit the "top guys" (whoever that may be????) and that Jehovah's witnesses are poor window washers who are slaves to the support of this organization.
SHOW ME, TELL ME, INFORM ME .....how, when, where are these mass amounts of money being misused. That is always your implication and it is a LIE!
But then as a Judas elder I am sure you are quite comfortable in the lying and deception department, right "Brother" ?
Come to think of it, none of your so-called reveals has been interesting or have uncovered some secret plot that holds any significance to Jehovah's Witnesses.
How does it feel to sit in a Kingdom Hall, next to others who mean you no harm, and betray your faith and your brotherhood? At least Judas got thirty pieces of silver, what's your reward?
To anonyous (2):
You are so silly. Jehovah's Witnesses have an extensive Library in each Kingdom Hall that is open to anyone who wishes to read the old bound volumes. Nothing is hidden.
Many of the Witnesses who have been around for awhile have personal Libraries, and I have never been unable to look at any very old volumes if I wanted to. Once again, there is no conspiracy to hide the past, where do you get these ridiculous ideas?
Let's see....the Catholic Church use to burn people at the stake for trying to read the Bible. They had a lot to hide....Jehovah's Witnesses do not.
Big hairy deal.
when I say the announcement is NOT in the letter to elders, I AM SURE
And it's not necesarily for me to be elder to be sure
ts been a few days since I came here I just wanted to remind you that the good news will still be preached in all the earth and all the sincere ones will find the truth it was a waste of time to come here. keep yakee yak, yakkeee yakkkk. and while you are yakkee yak the good news is been preached.
and by the way the guy that told me about your website is coming to the meeting all saturday now, once he's work schedule change he will be coming on TUESDAY. YOUR SITE DID NOT STOP HIM. HAHAAHAHAH LOL THE SINCERE ONES CAN DETECT YOUR LIES VERY EASILY, I GUESS YOU FORGOT THE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT
keep yakee yak even people who come to your site, wants to become witness yakee yak......... you will never learn, just yakee yak until it's over for you
think of this despite all the lies on the internet about the witnesses despite all the lies in the media, many sincere ones are coming in the truth .
keep yakee like Jesus said I will be with you every day until the end
keep yakee bye yakee yak
yakeee yakkeee yakeee yak
enjoy while you can no need to silence you since you can't stop sincere people to become Jehovah Witnesses.
The Governing Body is right no need to answer all the lies, since the facts speak for themselves.
the truth is the truth.
you cannot change that, BBBBBBBBBBBBYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEE
September 4, 2008 7:44 PM
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I think you mean Yakety Yak Frank...Yakee yak doesnt mean anything and its very irritating.
Oh and I didnt need to go on the internet to know the JWS dont have the truth. I found out from personal experience.
Frank says many sincere ones are coming into the truth. What about the many sincere ones who are leaving? Oh that's right, i forgot, they're not sincere, they're proud, satanic, lazy, spiritually dead, returning to the vomit etc. There's always going to be ones that still come in but it's mainly ones brought up in it that get baptized. Sometimes it takes years of association to learn the truth about 'the truth' When that happens many sincere ones leave.
James said:
"Frank says many sincere ones are coming into the truth. What about the many sincere ones who are leaving?"
I don't believe that a sincere one has left. If they were sincere they would have talked to me first.
And where are all of those ones leaving? Not from my congregations.
" Oh that's right, i forgot, they're not sincere, they're proud, satanic, lazy, spiritually dead, returning to the vomit etc. "
Well, they don't have the Eye of the Tiger.
"There's always going to be ones that still come in but it's mainly ones brought up in it that get baptized. Sometimes it takes years of association to learn the truth about 'the truth' When that happens many sincere ones leave."
Many just get dunked and don't know a thing and don't appreciate a thing, like you and GBLetters. Well we don't need you.
You know Ronde, if you are a typical example of someone who Jehovah will save, I am delighted that I will not be making it through the big A.
Can you imagine the totalitarian, black and white world its going to be on the other side?
Big Brother will pale into insignificance compared with the New World Order.
What is Ronde going to do when Rocky isn't playing at the movies??? LOL
Don't you love how he has woven into his religious beliefs quotes from a worldly and satanic motion picture business??? LOL
Yes, I know Ronde... Rocky retired... now, who are you going to quote from??? LOL
For any new reader. Ronde will say the opposite of what ever you say, no matter how foolish he looks.
He probably got this idea from another worldly satanic source: Seinfeld. Remember the episode where George does the complete opposite of how he would typically respond or act?
Ronde, I say "up", you say ____ (it begins with "d").
'And where are all of those ones leaving? Not from my congregations.'
'An even more extreme example of what might be called "masked churn" is the relatively tiny Jehovah's Witnesses, with a turnover rate of about two-thirds. That means that two-thirds of the people who told Pew they were raised Jehovah's Witnesses no longer are — yet the group attracts roughly the same number of converts.'
Beautiful Inside, what you said is not beautiful and does not make you beautiful.
Yeah, I am the kind of person that Jehovah will save because I am a good person, one that imitates Christ.
"Can you imagine the totalitarian, black and white world its going to be on the other side? "
No, because it won't be like that.
Well, Joepubl, Keeping the Eye of the Tiger helps me be a strong Christian, so be it.
I don't consider it the "worldly and satanic motion picture business", I call it Life.
Joepub, a great baseball manager once said "It's supposed to be hard. If it wasn't hard, everyone would do it. The hard... is what makes it great."
And that is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses so great. Sure it is hard, but it makes it great.
Joepub:
"Ronde, I say "up", you say ____ (it begins with "d")."
Yours.
Or "Up Your Shaft" as Scotty would say.
Ronde, you said to me 'Well, we don't need you'. I think the elders in my old congregation must agree with you. I served with them as an elder for 10 years but was disfellowshipped for questioning WT interpretation of scripture and expressing my doubts to others. That was 2 years ago. Since then i've been shunned, i've not had 1 visit from the elders, not even a memorial invitation dropped through the door and i'm a do not call. 'We don't need you' is the message i get loud & clear from the JW's. Thank you for repeating it so well.
James:
"I served with them as an elder for 10 years but was disfellowshipped for questioning WT interpretation of scripture and expressing my doubts to others. "
As you should be. A person is not DF for questioning interpretation but if one expresses such doubt to others causing others doubt, then the way to protect the congregation is to remove the wicked one.
"That was 2 years ago. Since then i've been shunned, i've not had 1 visit from the elders, not even a memorial invitation dropped through the door and i'm a do not call."
Why don't you go back to the KH and talk to them? IF you were an elder you would be making that effort.
" 'We don't need you' is the message i get loud & clear from the JW's. Thank you for repeating it so well. "
Well, it sounds like you made up your mind that you were not an older man in the congregation but a fraud.
aw ronde, when you fall, and you will, your kind words will be held against you.
You always will be the epitome of the JW brand of loving kindness that is false and based on false understandings.
ps.. your still an idiot.
Most of these responses make me sad that I was a JW.
Well.....what "kind" of Jehovah's witness would you expect to find on a site like this.
Ronde fits in quite nicely with this group.
[Ronde - a JW - said] "And that is what makes Jehovah's Witnesses so great."
Where's the humility?
Ronde, is it true that the elders are meant to visit me as a disfellowshipped person in their territory at least once a year? As for me making the effort to go back to the KH, why wouid i? I left because JW's don't have the truth as they claim they're just another religion that thinks they're right, although that is a difficult realization to make when you are raised a witness. The point is the elders don't know i feel that way, i could be desperate to come back but feeling too ashamed to for all they know. They never bother to find out, even though, according to them, they have the truth and i'm destined for eternal destruction. Not one visit. Ronde, you said i'm a wicked one and a fraud, why is that?
anon said:
"Most of these responses make me sad that I was a JW."
No one should ever be sad that they worship the true God with other worshippers.
What makes me sad is that there are those who worship the true God with his worshippers and they turn against them and speak against them.
anon said:
"Well.....what "kind" of Jehovah's witness would you expect to find on a site like this.
Ronde fits in quite nicely with this group."
Yes, the JWs here are quite intelligent and not just followers like the mob mentality that exists of the followers of apostasy.
Joepub.
When one worships Jehovah God, everything is great. That is the humility.
Sorry you never got to that point.
James said:
"Ronde, is it true that the elders are meant to visit me as a disfellowshipped person in their territory at least once a year?"
Do they know where you live?
" As for me making the effort to go back to the KH, why wouid i? I left because JW's don't have the truth as they claim they're just another religion"
Well, you don't know enough about the religion. It is a shame that people make such judgments without knowledge.
emaim me at rondejw@yahoo.com and I can help you understand.
" that thinks they're right, although that is a difficult realization to make when you are raised a witness."
Well, we are right.
" The point is the elders don't know i feel that way, i could be desperate to come back but feeling too ashamed to for all they know. "
Then tell them that.
"They never bother to find out, even though, according to them, they have the truth and i'm destined for eternal destruction. Not one visit. Ronde, you said i'm a wicked one and a fraud, why is that?"
And by stating that here, how are they to know?
Thanks for the offer Ronde but i feel i've made my judgement on the JW religion based on knowledge and i've no doubts. Yes, the elders know where i live. I don't want them to call because it would only be to get me to come back and i will never do that. I was just highlighting what i feel is an example of hypocrisy and lack of love in the JW religion, because from their point of view i'm heading for destruction and they don't seem to care. I express my views and feelings on this blog for others to read if they want to and you express yours.
frank and ronde,
I am so greatfull to not be part of your religion of hate.
Kimmy Jo,
You are the one here promoting and displaying hate.
i haven't ordered the volumes for YEARS. i just keep my personal issues.
ronde says,
"What makes me sad is that there are those who worship the true God with his worshippers and they turn against them and speak against them."
I have to say that is quite the statement from you ronde, who denies the Watchtower as Jehovahs tool to get info. to you so you know what to think and do as one of JW's. You speak against your MOTHER, Jehovah's wife the Watchtower.
""What makes me sad is that there are those who worship the true God with his worshippers and they turn against them and speak against them." I have to say that is quite the statement from you ronde, who denies the Watchtower as Jehovahs tool to get info. to you so you know what to think and do as one of JW's. You speak against your MOTHER, Jehovah's wife the Watchtower. "
I don't deny the Watchtower as Jehovah's Tool, because it is being used to preach the good news. I just state that we are not to judge the religion based on your examination of the Watchtower because Jehovah's tool is the Bible. Judge that first.
The Watchtower is not Jehovah's Wife. That is not what we believe.
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