Thursday, November 6, 2008

Another Bible Prophesy Fulfilled!

*** Awake! 1969 May 22 p.15 ***
If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold: 'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way towards its finish, if not actually gone! This is why parents who base their lives on God's prophetic Word find it much more practical to direct their young ones into trades that do not require such long periods of additional schooling… True, those who do not understand where we are in the stream of time from God's viewpoint will call this impractical. But which is really practical: preparing yourself for a position in this world that soon will pass away? or working toward surviving this system's end and enjoying eternal life in God's righteous new order?

43 comments:

kimmy jo said...

That was written in 1969! To bad for all those who did nothing with their God given brains but instead choose to follow the Watchtower.

Anonymous said...

shame but thats why most wash windows and are cleaners

Anonymous said...

'Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.'

That is true... I am 51 and wash windows, because as an 11 year old I read these magazines and believed them and my father did too.

Sheeplike said...

Yes, this article turned out wrong. So were the disciples thought the end would come in the 1st century.

All Christians need to be on the watch. The end will come!

Voice of Reason said...

I was a child in 1969 and I have not grown old in this system. So they were right.

Anonymous said...

Ronde wrote: "I was a child in 1969 and I have not grown old in this system. So they were right."

Neither religion OR math are your strong suits.

We still love ya.

rondes shadow said...

NO we dont.

T.J. Ronde.
Your SUCH an idiot.

Anonymous said...

sheeplike/ronde said, "Yes, this article turned out wrong. So were the disciples thought the end would come in the 1st century."

Those disciples didn't go around preaching that the end would come... they simply asked Jesus, are you restoring the Kingdom of the Heavens at this time.

You see, instead of being presumptuous and setting a false date for the end, they did the right thing and petitioned Jesus for an answer.

Interesting when you view it this way, isn't it? JW's have run ahead of Jesus by setting their own timetables - do you comprehend the gravity of that sin?

Anonymous said...

Let's not forget that people who became JW's after the 1975 fiasco were told that this never happened!

Why would anyone lie about something that appeared in print. I swallowed the response at the time, but now with the Interent I see after 3 decades that they did predict the end in 1975.

Anonymous said...

A little off topic, but the December 08 KM says nothing about a change in pioneer hours. I recall several posters here said it would.

Mister Lorenzo said...

I made a video about older and infirm Bethelites from that time who are now being put onto the streets with no help from "mother"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrH8kpexihk

Sheeplike said...

The Watchtower or Awake have never been intended to replace the Bible.

But, it is good to always be on the watch! It will come as a thief in the night.

Admin Staff said...

It took me a long while to accept the simple fact that there was no spirit of anointing on the self assumed mantle that the "anointed" of the WTBS claimed as their sole right.

The history of the organisation prior to being called Jehovahs Witnesses and since, is littered with deceit, lies, and ravings of personal idiosyncracies that never had Gods blessing.

The Creator is a God who can never lie. He would NOT use a vehicle that would consistently go against explicit biblical injunctions regarding attempts at dating, manipulation and outright deception.

SO...the WTBTS is simply another organization that exists with a few truths mixed in with the self serving agenda that has been hidden behind the facade of spiritual correctness.

Wake up all you rondes and sheeplike out there. You HAVE been deceived and yet you continue to allow it. Shame on you...

steve said...

'I was a child in 1969 and I have not grown old in this system. So they were right.'

'Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.'

I was a child in 1969 and could have fulfilled a career in this system. So they were wrong.

Anonymous said...

'Yes, this article turned out wrong.'

Like so many of their other articles. With sometimes tragic and devastating effects on those who put their trust in this Organization as being the sole channel of communication from God.

Missing out on a career may not seem a big deal to some, but missing out on life due to not taking blood, having transplants, not buying a party card in Malawi, being disfellowshipped wrongly by a bunch of unqualified elders and losing your family has been the deal for many and its despicable that there has not even been one word of apology or remorse for their mistakes.

Anonymous said...

I meant to say, 'NOT having transplants.'

tohsibor said...

Once again proof of a history containing lies and false prophesy spewing from the Watchtower Society.

Shawn said...

Sheeplike said...

Yes, this article turned out wrong. So were the disciples thought the end would come in the 1st century.

All Christians need to be on the watch. The end will come!
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So what you're saying is that the first-century Christians were wrong for thinking that the end would come in their lifetimes.

Why does the Bible record this incorrect line of thought? Could it be that it should serve as an example for Christians today? Undoubtedly! So why would the Watchtower Society predict one date after another? The first century Christians had no precedent so their need for correction was excusable. The Watchtower Society not only had the example of the first-century Christians, but the failed predictions of the dispensationalists of the mid-1800's. Even after the tremendous failure of the 1914 prediction, the Watchtower Society continued to predict dates... 1915, 1918, 1925, 1975, 1994, before the end of the 20th century and now the year 2034 has been hinted at.

The Watchtower Society should have spent more time actually reading the Bible instead of looking for hidden codes that predict the end of the world.

tohsibor said...

Sheeplike said...The Watchtower or Awake have never been intended to replace the Bible.

The Watchtower Society has made the Watchtower magazine available in more languages than their own translation [New World Translation] of the Bible. You would think their version of the Bible would be available in more languages than the Watchtower magazine.

Why do you that is the case for the Watchtower Society?

Logic dictates you would make available to as many people as possible what is considered the most important publication. For the Watchtower Society that is the Watchtower magazine and not the Bible.

Voice of Reason said...

Mr Lorenzo,

Why would we care about YOUR videos as they are biased and jaded?

Anonymous said...

Voice of Reason, nice job ignoring the facts stated by shawn and tohsibor!

Shawn said...

Voice of Reason has left a new comment on the post "Another Bible Prophesy Fulfilled!":

Mr Lorenzo,

Why would we care about YOUR videos as they are biased and jaded?

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Classic cult ad-hominem attack! See, an honest organization does not need to hide anything from its members. It also does not need to prohibit their members from reading or viewing information critical to that organization. It's a cult technique called information control. Cults will tack insulting or demeaning labels to anyone critical of their organization. For instance...

*** w97 4/15 p. 30 Do You Eat Well Spiritually? ***

Spiritual Contamination

Besides the threat of spiritual starvation, there is another danger we need to be aware of—the type of food that we eat may itself be contaminated. Taking in teachings infected by dangerous demonic ideas can poison us just as easily as can eating physical food that has been tainted with germs or toxins. (Colossians 2:8) It is not always easy to spot poisonous food. “Food,” says one authority, “may sometimes appear quite wholesome and yet harbour pathogenic bacteria.” So we do well to examine the source of our figurative food, bearing in mind that some literature, such as apostate writings, may be infected by the introduction of unscriptural teachings and philosophies. Some food manufacturers even use misleading labeling to deceive their customers as to the contents of their product. We certainly can expect Satan, the great deceiver, to do the same. Make sure, therefore, that you get such figurative food from a reliable source, so that you stay “healthy in the faith.”—Titus 1:9, 13.
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*** w94 7/1 p. 12 par. 12 At Which Table Are You Feeding? ***

12 Yes, apostates publish literature that resorts to distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood. They even picket Witness conventions, trying to trap the unwary. Hence, it would be a dangerous thing to allow our curiosity to move us to feed on such writings or to listen to their abusive speech! While we might not think it a risk for us personally, the hazard remains. Why? For one thing, some of the apostate literature presents falsehoods by means of “smooth talk” and “counterfeit words.” (Romans 16:17, 18; 2 Peter 2:3) What would you expect from the table of demons? And while the apostates may also present certain facts, these are usually taken out of context with the goal of drawing others away from the table of Jehovah. All their writings simply criticize and tear down! Nothing is upbuilding.
***

Notice how the Watchtower Society never addresses what the objections are... the just call critisism 'demonic', 'poison', 'distortions, half-truths, and outright falsehood'. Name calling like this doesn't actually address the issue, it is designed to turn minds off.

Additionally, who cares if the information is biased. The Watchtower Society produces reams of biased information every month. It's perfectly fine to take an alternate position. Let the reader decide what is more in line with reality.

What people should take note of is how, in a knee-jerk reaction, VoR labeled Mr Lorenzo's work as 'jaded'. No reason why, just name calling. That is evidence of a possible cult victim.

VoR, does the Watchtower Society have something to be defensive about? If they are not a cult, then why worry? Why try to dissuade people from watching the video? Could it be that there is convincing evidence that the Watchtower Society is using cult techniques? If not, then why not have faith that anyone viewing the video will be able to see that the arguments in the video are baseless?

Voice of Reason said...

"Like so many of their other articles. With sometimes tragic and devastating effects on those who put their trust in this Organization as being the sole channel of communication from God."

What does that have to do with being Jehovah's Witnesses?

JWs are not based on articles.

The tragic effects resulted from the 3 esses. Satan's Stinkin system.

kimmy jo said...

roundy-roundy round, rond/vor goes with that circular reasoning! here we go again....hang on for the tiring display of dumbness.

kimmy jo said...

or maybe it is a severe case of denial on vor's part.

Anonymous said...

Let me see, in 1969 I was a freshman in High School. My son just graduated from University recently. So, I guess they were right! Right?

Anonymous said...

Another real-life story of an Apostate win!

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/7/167740/1.ashx

Voice of Reason said...

"Another real-life story of an Apostate win!"

Apostates never win.

Sheeplike said...

A whole lot of bashing, but what about something refreshing from the Bible?

What do you have that is better than what Jehovah's Witnesses rightfully believe? God has a name/ the earth will become a paradise/ the Kingdom government/ no hell/ the ransom/ no immortal soul/ etc?

Anonymous said...

sheeplike wrote: "A whole lot of bashing, but what about something refreshing from the Bible?

What do you have that is better than what Jehovah's Witnesses rightfully believe? God has a name/ the earth will become a paradise/ the Kingdom government/ no hell/ the ransom/ no immortal soul/ etc?"

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Not even for ten seconds, can you place yourselves into the shoes of an ex-JW, in an attempt to understand him.

We left because we PROVED to ourselves from the Bible that Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's organization.

Pray for wisdom and use your critical thinking skills. You're closer to the real truth than you probably realize.

Anonymous said...

As far as sharing something positive, again -- What could be more positive than trying to save people's lives, by rescuing them from the grips of a destructive cult that practices information control?

Print out some of the things you've learned here and share them with your Book Study group. You'll quickly learn the reality of Information Control, as practices not only by JWs, but by many cults.

Anonymous said...

Just testing the waters...

Voice of Reason said...

"Not even for ten seconds, can you place yourselves into the shoes of an ex-JW, in an attempt to understand him."

We don't want to understand you. There is no understanding the devil.

"We left because we PROVED to ourselves from the Bible that Jehovah's Witnesses are not God's organization."

And we are Jehovah's Witnesses because our beliefs are proven from the Bible. Notice the difference. You focus on the people and we focus on the word of God. Rather than saying that JWs are not God's organization, we do our best to be God's people.

greg said...

Voice of Reason. You said that prior explanations about 'the generation' were not wrong, they are all equal. This is not what JWs believe. You can't say 'we're Jehovah's Witnesses' and talk about 'our beliefs'. Your beliefs are different. Jws don't agree with you, they don't share your beliefs.

Voice of Reason said...

Greg,

How would you know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

You may know what the magazines say but that does not mean that you know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe.

The only definition of the generation that matters is the one that Jesus intended when he said it.

Everything that JWs have believed about it may or may not equal what Jesus said. We don't know. The present understand is no more equal to it than the past ones. But we all believe that it means what Jesus said it would. That is the only thing that is important.

greg said...

VoR. One of the things JWs boast about is their 'unity'. The fact that no matter where you go in the world, JWs believe the same things. In 1927 they believed 'the generation' was the annointed, then they believed it was those alive in 1914, then in 1995 they believed it was the wicked, today the annointed. Why did they all change what they believed, all at the same time? Because the WT magazine said so.

Anonymous said...

I see Ronde is trying to cause confusion by appearing again.

Ronde stated: "We don't want to understand you. There is no understanding the devil."

Interesting how Ronde chose to ignore the command by Jesus to not judge others. It really says a lot about some members of JW's - some just love to judge others and they are so used to doing so they fail to realize that they are sinning against God and Jesus.

Beautiful Inside said...

'The only definition of the generation that matters is the one that Jesus intended when he said it.'


Complete gibberish.

By that reasoning it doesnt matter what religion you are, because whatever you believe doesn't negate what Jesus meant, even if it's different from what you believe.

Anonymous said...

I see Beautiful Inside has Ronde figured out to a T:

"Complete gibberish."

I like it!

Voice of Reason said...

"By that reasoning it doesnt matter what religion you are, because whatever you believe doesn't negate what Jesus meant, even if it's different from what you believe. "

If that is how you get around things, then hey.

Shawn said...

Voice of Reason said:

Greg,

How would you know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe?

You may know what the magazines say but that does not mean that you know what Jehovah's Witnesses believe.

The only definition of the generation that matters is the one that Jesus intended when he said it.

Everything that JWs have believed about it may or may not equal what Jesus said. We don't know. The present understand is no more equal to it than the past ones. But we all believe that it means what Jesus said it would. That is the only thing that is important.

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This is what Jesus intended when he said "Truly I say to you that this generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur."

He was predicting the second destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans in 70 C.E. That's it. There is no 'second fulfillment' as dispensationalists like the Watchtower Society claim. Jesus was right. That generation did live to see the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem for the last time. The prophesy was fulfilled.

Given that Jesus words have already been fulfilled, every interpretation the Watchtower Society has issued has been wrong. There is no scriptural support for a second fulfillment in our day.

Shawn said...

Sheeplike has left a new comment on the post "Another Bible Prophesy Fulfilled!":

A whole lot of bashing, but what about something refreshing from the Bible?

What do you have that is better than what Jehovah's Witnesses rightfully believe? God has a name/ the earth will become a paradise/ the Kingdom government/ no hell/ the ransom/ no immortal soul/ etc?

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Let's parse this out.

God has a name - Refreshing! Except that no one actually knows how to pronounce it and it never even once appears in the Christian Greek scriptures. The Watchtower Society has added it in order to refute the divinity of Christ.

the earth will become a paradise - Not in the Bible. Jehovah's Witnesses use a metaphorical scripture in Isiah to claim that the earth will be turned into a global park where you and your children will be able to pet lions.


the Kingdom government
Jesus said to Pilate that His Kingdom is no part of this world. It is not nor will ever be on earth. There is not going to be a heavenly bureaucracy governing all of those friendly lions.

no hell
Even the Catholic Church has de-emphasized the concept of hell these days.

the ransom
That's universal to Christianity. The Watchtower Society does not have a lock on that core doctrine.

no immortal soul
The Christian Greek scriptures do teach that faithful Christians who live out their lives will survive their own deaths and go to heaven. The notion that only 144,000 people will go to heaven is not only unscriptural, but it's simply not possible. The Watchtower Society teaches that Christians alive from Pentecost 33 CE to 1935 CE will go to heaven and that there are only 144,000 of them. The rest of us get to live in the global park with the happy lions. However, by the end of the first century, there were about a million Christians on the planet. Let's assume the 75% of those Christians were really bad Christians and don't deserve to go to heaven. That still leaves 250,000 Christians who should be in heaven right now, which is way more than 144,000. According to the Watchtower Society, there are still thousands of spots left for those fortunate enough to be chosen to get out of eternity in lion park here on earth.

Anonymous said...

'If that is how you get around things, then hey.'

What an eloquent, well thought out response. Not worth the piece of cyberspace its written on.