Friday, January 9, 2009

Interview With Watchtower Attorney Hayden Covington

In 1978, Jerry Murray, a Jehovah Witness elder, interviewed Hayden Covington, the Watch Tower attorney who had a prominent role in legal matters for the Watch Tower Society before the U.S. Supreme Court. For those who have never heard this interview before,the Murray interview is seventy-five minutes long and now can be found on the following website,

Scroll down to the year, 1978.
It's a great interview because Covington states little-known facts that I think anybody researching or studying Watch Tower history will appreciate. Helps to add some previously missing links to the history of the Rutherford years that only somebody on the inside like Covington would know about. Listen to him talk about who took Rutherford's body back to New York from San Diego and they all went first class.
Complete speculative quiry on my part, but it's fun: What if the coffin on that train was empty? After all, we should not forget when a visitor to Bethel asked Freddie in the 1980s, "Where is Rutherford buried?", he didn't hesitate and said, "In California!"

1 comment:

Marie said...

Luke 12:42-46 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? Happy is that slave, if his master on arriving finds him doing so! I tell YOU truthfully, He will appoint him over all his belongings. But if ever that slave should say in his heart, ‘My master delays coming,’ and should start to beat the menservants and the maidservants, and to eat and drink and get drunk, the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting [him] and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and assign him a part with the unfaithful ones.

How does a faithful steward act in his or her actions as one with Father and Son in a discreet heart of peace that God gives that excels all thought and a mental attitude in Christ? Let YOUR reasonableness become known to all mankind. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious over anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication along with thanksgiving let YOUR petitions be made known to God; and the peace of God that excels all thought will guard YOUR hearts and YOUR mental powers by means of Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:5-7

Meaning of discreet (adjective) showing good judgment in conduct; prudent; modest; circumspect; unobtrusive. Meaning of faithful (adjective )1.strict or thorough in the performance of duty: a faithful worker. 2.true to one's word, promises, vows, etc.3.firm, honest, steady; affection; loyal; constant: faithful friends. 4. reliable, trusted, or believed. 5. adhering or true to fact,a standard,or an original; accurate: a faithful account; a faithful one, copy. Obsolete. full of faith; believing.

No matter what religion I've encountered in my life, I've always heard do not forsake the gathering of yourselves together even from JW's which I'm very aware of the tactics given them from the WT, in how to attract newbies' into their clan. In all the four gospels I've never heard Jesus voice nor have I read Jesus say you have to go to church to be able to worship Jehovah God, Jesus' Father and God and my Father and God. Nor any of his apostles state that any follower's of Jehovah God and his Son Jesus had to go to church. I do remember what Jesus did say, "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst." Matthew 18:20.

And all Jehovah Witnesses know Jesus has his Father's name in him as God is our Savior our Salvation in sending forth a savior into the world, his only begotten son Jesus. Who is not a god as the NWT states in John 1:1 and also other area's of the NWT in the NT. The idolization of the Watchtower is very subtle—yet real.

While the NWT is up in the verbiage of today, I've found errors in it also and also scriptures being omitted. My findings on all bibles they are not 100 percent accurate due to translations of the men who wrote them.

The Word of God is infallible in how we are to seek and worship Him. I know I have a mediator to my Father and God, my Lord Jesus in pray.

What type of fruits will the faithful steward discreet slave have? So you will know them by what they produce. "You will know them by their fruits. Grapes are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they? Matthew 7:16,20.

Will they be liars, puffed up with pride, false witnesses, allowing to promote the sacrifice of innocent children, which what is exactly what Jehovah hates? These six [things] does Jehovah hate, yes, seven are an abomination unto him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood; a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations; feet that are swift in running to mischief; a false witness that uttereth lies, and he that soweth discords among brethren. Proverbs 6:16-19

But while the churches of apostate Christianity have certainly had their child abuse scandals, the organization of Jehovah’s Witnesses has also been seduced into tolerating the sacrifice of the sexual innocence and purity of many young children to the demons. We all fall short of the Glory of God what makes any religion so worthy including the JW's?

I do know God hand picked for his Son the 144,000 they are found to be blameless, but how will we know who they are? Also they are not all Jews nor men. We know the dead in Christ rise first, who are the remaining ones that go together with caught away from the earth, to be with the Lord and his Father and God?

Can a person function in over-eating or getting drunk?..eating and drinking and getting drunk..What did Jesus mean in Luke 12:42-46..did he mean they would be asleep?..and would not take notice of his coming? In delusion of what religions plural and their leaders have told the people?

Remember Jehovah God allows Satan to blind, its Satan that tests us, not God. God puts those into a delusion and lets them believe the lie for their lack of love of the truth. We reap what we sow.

At Revelation 2:14, the Lord Jesus speaks to the congregation of people, saying: “You have there those holding fast the teaching of Balaam, who went teaching Balak to put a stumbling block before the sons of Israel, to eat things sacrificed to idols and to commit fornication.”

It is an undeniable fact that in both subtle and not-so-subtle ways the Watchtower’s policies have always sought to muzzle the victims of pedophilia and their families, so as not to scandalize the congregation or organization. The reasoning has always been that no one should know about such ugliness so as not to ‘bring reproach on Jehovah’s name.’ So, there is a strong inclination towards secrecy, which obviously serves the interests of the perpetrators of crimes against children. What makes them any better that any religion in fact the Roman Catholic church who ship their priests to other churches and don't report the abuse? It is also a fact that the Society discourages elders from notifying the congregation when a suspected or even known sexual predator is in their midst, thus putting more children at risk of becoming victims. Even when a pedophile is disfellowshipped, the congregation is not told why.

“Shepherds that feed themselves” are obviously self-serving in the churches with the congregation of people, perhaps even posing as the faithful discreet slave. Their being likened to “stars with no set course” would seem to suggest that they pose as spiritual guides, but their “guidance” is as unreliable as navigating by following a wandering star in the sky. Just as Jesus asked the Pharisees how they thought they were going to escape the judgment of Gehenna, the odd description of their “having died twice” must mean that their course of treachery has already brought upon them the judgment of the second death. Since that very judgment is also reserved for the evil slaves of Christ’s illustrations, “the teachings of Balaam” must ultimately emanate from them.

Many sects which became cult groups, all religions, with ism’s and skisism’s have used this elect group to announce themselves as this “chosen” elect group to further their own causes, groups and leaders,or I'm born again. When they haven't got a clue what born again means. The abuse of this term has been so widely used for so long, that whenever the real appearance of these anointed ones come they will probably be met with much skepticism and unbelief.

1.The sealing proclaims ownership, they belong to God chosen of Him for His Son. 2.The sealing also includes a special protection from Satan, to enable them to perform their set apart duty. 3.This set apart duty is the destination and purpose of the sealing which is part of the sealing process. As New Testament prophets shared, they will not only be proclaiming the gospel of Jesus Christ but they will also explain the many specific details and the events which are leading to the second coming of Christ which only Jehovah God know's Jesus' Father and God.

So who is this Watchtower to give notice to these sad JW's that some of the anoited are in heaven already? I was told by one JW that they are on the job training in heaven?

I read most of your blog, Letters from the governing body, much of it seemed like a trumpet call to get out of all religions in general, including the JW's;..and with some readings of I couldn't help,but laugh. You have heard it said, “He who laughs last, laughs best.” Let me expand on that: I may laugh, you may laugh, but God will have the last and best laugh, for God’s purposes will be served.

Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him, knowing God raised His Christ, and having been raised from the dead, is never to die again; death no longer is master over him. For the death that he died, he died to sin once for all; but the life that he lives, he lives to his Father God. Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus. Romans 6:8-11